New PS3 Hard Drive

MidgardDragon · Jun 26, 2012

I am likely replacing my 320gb slim now that the Bluray drive is going, and I am just going to get a 160 and put a new higher capacity HDD in it. I've heard that maximum you can go without modifying the PS3 physically is 500GB, is that true? And if anyone has done so would you say this HDD will work and is a good one?

http://www.amazon.com/500GB-Drive-W...id=1340718648&sr=8-1&keywords=sata 500 gb 2.5

I thought about either just sending it in for repairs (only 150 I hear) or having it repaired locally, but with Amazon overnight delivery for 3.99 via Prime I won't have to go without for as long, and can make some of that back by selling my old PS3 (not to mention the two hard drives).

Also has anyone backed up and restored from an old HDD to a new one via the Backup Utility? Did it work alright?

ETA:

Actually I just found a 1TB that works for sure:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SpinP...3YLTBC/ref=de_a_smtd?ie=UTF8&m=A2DB716U20XPP4

And a great YouTube tutorial:

So what have others experiences replacing HDD's in PS3's been like?

J_A_M_E_S · Jun 26, 2012

Only one I have done was from 60gb to 320gb with no problems. If you like to put films music and a lot of DLC I would go with the 1TB.

I have just freed up 100gb from deleting the game data from all the games I don't really play.

XpAcErX · Jun 26, 2012

1tb should work fine, it just needs to be 9.5mm thick. A lot of 1tb drives are 12.5mm which will not fit. The Samsung 1tb you linked should do fine.

Luuk.vanRiel · Jun 26, 2012

You dont really need 1tb. Even 320 is overkill. Movies and music can be streamed through your home network + there is no need for conversion then. And i have game data installed for something like 15 games on my 80gb hdd and never have any trouble. Plus i have dead nation, wipeout, journey and some demos.

XpAcErX · Jun 26, 2012

Luuk.vanRiel said: ↑

You dont really need 1tb. Even 320 is overkill. Movies and music can be streamed through your home network + there is no need for conversion then. And i have game data installed for something like 15 games on my 80gb hdd and never have any trouble. Plus i have dead nation, wipeout, journey and some demos.

i have 100gb left on my 500gb hdd, i'm about to get 1tb soon. i got almost 100 games on there.

Jammyluke · Jun 26, 2012

I upgraded my 40gb ps3 to 500gb about 2years ago, it was really simple (on phat anyway), You just had to pull of the plastic cover and simply push in the hdd and it should push back out fully. Really simple

Codey47 · Jun 26, 2012

I'm very interested by Seagate's 750GB Hybrid Momentus XT drives
Improves load speed and frame rate with certain game engines especially engines with texture streaming(Unreal 3 and IDTech 5 at the top of my head)

Can SSD Upgrades Boost PS3 Performance?(500gb XT Momentus)

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(500gb XT Momentus)

When one speaks on the performance of a computing machine, whether it’s a laptop or desktop, the main topics of discussion often relate to the processor, graphics processing unit, and RAM. While all three of these components undoubtedly play a large role in the performance of a computer, the speed and technology of one’s hard drive is just as important. As the storage center for applications and files, the speed and technology of the hard drive utilized is crucial in delivering a smooth computing experience whether it’s while gaming, video editing, or even the basic operations such as browsing the web and editing documents. As any tech enthusiast knows, solid-state hard drives (SSDs) are the latest and greatest technology available offering the fastest speeds possible thanks to the lack of spinning discs and moveable read/write heads, but due to the price of the technology, many users fail to invest in such technology. Because of this, Seagate has decided to step in and offer the market a strong alternative known as the Momentus XT, a 2.5-inch large capacity hybrid drive that combines the blazing speed of SSD technology with the large capacities offered by traditional hard disk drives. Read more to see how well Seagate was able to pull this off.

So how does Seagate utilize the hybrid drive technology with their Momentus XT product line? Seagate has designed these hard drives to utilize the integrated flash memory to cache data frequently accessed to cut down on the drive’s limitations leading to a much faster data transfer speed while reading and writing to and from the drive. The first generation of Seagate’s Momentus XT product line, announced May of 2010, was limited to 500GB, was rated at a SATA speed of 3Gb/s at 7200RPM, and featured 4GB of Single Level Cell (SLC) NAND Flash. For those who are not aware, SLC NAND Flash is what handles the caching of frequently accessed data thanks to the dedicated NAND controller integrated within Seagate’s Momentus XT hard drives. Seagate’s second generation of the Momentus XT, announced November of 2011 and shown off during CES 2012, improves on the impressive offering of the previous generation by not only providing the drive in a larger capacity (750GB), but by doubling the amount of integrated SLC NAND Flash from 4GB to 8GB. Increasing the amount of SLC NAND flash on the second generation of the Momentus XT product line allows for a much smoother computing experience and allows the drive to reach optimal performance in less time. Because SLC NAND Flash handles the caching of data accessed on the hard drive, rather than the drive having to make several runs to reach peak-performance due to the 4GB restriction on the previous generation of Momentus XT drives, the 8GBs of SLC NAND flash on the latest Momentus XT drives allows the drive to reach maximum performance in just two runs. At this time, the full 8GB of SLC NAND Flash is only utilized for reading from the drive, but Seagate has announced that later this year a firmware update will be issued enabling full support for writing to the drive.
Seagate has also implemented three technologies, two of which are new (FAST Factor Boot and FAST Factor Flash Management) with the second generation, that add up to what Seagate calls “FAST Factor Technology”. The first of the three, FAST Factor Boot does just as it sounds. By simply caching data used only while booting your system, machines utilizing Seagate’s Momentus XT will be able to get up and running at three times the speed of someone using the standard 5400RPM drive, nearly the speed of a true SSD. The implementation of FAST Factor Flash Management is also a nice addition to the second generation of Momentus XT hard drives as the technology integrates hardware, firmware, and high-speed NAND flash to minimize flash writes, extending the lifetime of the flash. Lastly, while implemented in the first generation of Momentus XT hard drives, the implementation of Seagate’s Adaptive Memory technology plays a large role in offering a SSD-like experience from applications and files frequently used. By simply copying one’s repeatedly used data into the flash integrated within the hard drive, the access speed of these data files is greatly increased delivering a seamless experience for the user.
To go along with the increase of SLC NAND Flash, the second generation of Seagate’s Momentus XT product line is also capable of reaching speeds double of that in their first generation. Rated at reaching speeds of up to 6Gb/s (3Gb/s last generation) at 7200RPM thanks to the SATA III standard, users taking advantage of fairly recent motherboards will have the ability to reach a blazing fast transfer speed dependent upon the many factors that play a role in the actual transfer speed. Simply put, Seagate’s second generation Momentus XT product line is utilizing the latest and greatest technology without approaching the SSD technology that’s price causes many to steer away from.
While all of the specs and technology integrated into Seagate’s second generation of the Momentus XT product line looks great on paper, what it really comes down to is how well the hardware performs during use. In fact, what about those who plan on upgrading the hard drive in their PlayStation 3 and would like to speed up the process of booting, installing, loading, etc.? For those looking to enrich their PS3 experience with more storage and faster data speeds, I have great news for you.
Because Seagate’s Momentus XT product line aligns with the support of PS3’s 2.5” SATA hard drive enclosure, one is able to purchase the Momentus XT and reap the benefits within their very own videogame console. While the advantages of Seagate’s Momentus XT product line will not be quite as evident within a PlayStation 3 as a computer, due to the limitations of the hardware and software within the videogame console, as one who has upgraded from the included 5400RPM hard drive, I can attest to noticeable speed improvements on any operation that relies on the use of the hard drive. Activities such as booting the console, installing software (demos, downloadable content, etc.), and loading data-intensive games revealed noticeably faster results without having to use a stopwatch, but to provide readers with a better understanding of how much of an improvement it has made, below you will find a few speed tests run on both the standard, included hard drive and Seagate’s Momentus XT. All tests recorded were on the third run to allow for the cache of the Momentus XT to kick in.

Keeping in mind that results may vary console to console, it is evident that the technology Seagate has implemented within their second generation of the Momentus XT product line, does indeed speed up hard drive-based tasks on the PlayStation 3. As mentioned earlier, components such as the speed of the PS3’s Blu-ray drive are to blame for the lack of drastic increase in speed that the Momentus XT is capable of, but for those looking to store 500GB or even 750GB of media on their PlayStation 3, Seagate’s Momentus XT product line is a viable solution.

XpAcErX · Jun 26, 2012

keep in mind the ps3 is only sata 1. Thats your bottle neck you will not get the full use out of a ssd, your only going to gain a marginal speed increase which isnt worth the cost.

Codey47 · Jun 26, 2012

The momentus XT is a hybrid SSD so the costs are similar to "vanilla" hard drives
available in 500gb(4GB first generation)$89 and 750GB(8GB second generation) $149

Yes I understand that the PS3 is sata one but still doesn't make the new(or older model) hybrid a redundant purchase the proof is in the pudding courtesy of a link

Stock HDD vs Hybrid vs SSD

Could a Drive Upgrade Have "Cured" Skyrim PS3 Lag?

We noticed several miracle videos on YouTube that appeared to show that utilising an SSD inside the PlayStation 3 could mitigate the horrific impact of Rimlag - a bizarre phenomenon in which Skyrim players with large saves see game performance drop off a cliff after a certain period of time in-game. We'd been planning this feature for some time so arranged for our test drives to retain the older 2.02 patch. Note that this issue has now been largely resolved.
We utilised the same 65-hour save that we'd used in previous tests, wandering around each of the major towns and cities before fast-travelling to the next. In this way we can typically make the Rimlag issue kick in with a vengeance after about 40 minutes of gameplay. In this three-way comparison video, you can see that a hard drive upgrade makes a huge amount of difference to the overall performance level. The stock 60GB hard drive that came as standard with the launch PS3 didn't fare particularly well here at all, and while there are still significant frame-rate dips with the hybrid drive and the SSD, we see three distinct tiers of performance.

With the standard hard drive, Skyrim lag literally brings the game to a standstill to the point where our analysis tools actually log zero frames per second, but we see a much greater level of improvement with the hybrid SSD, and across the run of "play", we see another boost to frame-rate with the SSD.
The results seem to bear out a rumour circulating the development community that Bethesda attempted to implement some kind of virtual memory system with Skyrim, swapping out data from RAM onto the hard drive - a system that collapses in on itself under heavy load. The company has now acknowledged that Rimlag was a memory issue, and the fact that we see such obvious improvements on the unpatched game with improved hard drives is telling.

XpAcErX · Jun 26, 2012

I don't want your proofy pudding

Codey47 · Jun 26, 2012

Because it debunks your claim?

XpAcErX · Jun 26, 2012

Codey47 said: ↑

Because it debunks your claim?

no i was just being funny. I still don't see it as cost effective to save a few loading seconds.

Codey47 · Jun 26, 2012

XpAcErX said: ↑

no i was just being funny. I still don't see it as cost effective to save a few loading seconds.

and frame rate.

MidgardDragon · Jun 26, 2012

Luuk.vanRiel said: ↑

You dont really need 1tb. Even 320 is overkill. Movies and music can be streamed through your home network + there is no need for conversion then. And i have game data installed for something like 15 games on my 80gb hdd and never have any trouble. Plus i have dead nation, wipeout, journey and some demos.

Uh, yeah, I have PS+ and ended up having to delete data on my 320GB to make room after downloading all the free games. I know the amount of space I want/need, and since 1TB will fit it's what I'm getting.

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